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Captain DIY Goes to Camp FI-Again!

  • By Captain DIY
  • 19 Jun, 2019

In Which Even More Cool People Are Met

A while back, as my more serious readers know from the cleverly named Captain DIY Goes to Camp FI, I set out on an adventure in which I flew from Massachusetts to Arkansas to hang out with a bunch of strangers and talk about financial independence for a weekend. Despite the numerous warnings I received beforehand regarding timeshares and Kool-Aid, the weekend turned out to be life changing in a good way, and my feelings upon departure at the end were:

Here We Go Again

This time I stayed a little closer to home, with a couple of ludicrously short flights depositing my shaggy butt in Virginia. I had, upon arrival, the distinct pleasure of getting picked up by my good friend David from fiology.com, whom I had met in Arkansas. This time around he kindly invited me to come down a day early and stay in his home, where his family gave me nothing short of the best southern hospitality a weary traveler could ever hope for.

That brings up a solid example of why I have gone to two of these camps in the first place: it’s all about community. I made real friends in Arkansas, and I had the opportunity to further kindle one of those friendships in Virginia. I can honestly say, after my experiences at these camps, that I now have friends across the country who would welcome me into their home. I would do the same, but for some reason no one seems to want to come to Massachusetts.
Ah, nothing like a brisk fall breeze!

Let the Camp Begin

Staying with the twin brother of the Camp FI founder has one very real benefit, which is not having to worry about showing up to camp on time. I got to experience a behind-the-scenes look at how these camps come together, and my ride to the camp itself with founder Stephen was an opportunity to pic the brain of one of the most quietly influential people I have had the pleasure of meeting.

By the way, he would never say anything like that about himself. In fact, he will do everything he can to steer the conversation to someone else to avoid the limelight, which really shows the honesty of his community-building intentions. If you are thinking of Camp FI as an opportunistic business venture and nothing else, I invite you to put yourself out there, go to one of the camps, and have a chat with Stephen. You’ll soon see what I mean.

As people started arriving, I was pleasantly surprised by some familiar faces from Arkansas, while still being introduced to a bunch of new ones. Oddly enough, a handful of those new faces were from Massachusetts! Some from a town less than 20 minutes from my house! We just had to fly to Virginia to meet each other!

This camp started much like the other one had, with introductions, jokes, and small talk. The crowd was a bit larger this time, which made it more difficult to get to know everyone, but it was still a small enough group to avoid feeling overwhelming.

That being the first day, the scheduled activities were limited to the meet-and-greet, which was followed by dinner and partying by a campfire. My kind of Friday night!

Down to Business

The people that spoke at this camp were some big names in the FIRE movement, and they have those reputations for a reason.

Tanja and Mark of Our Next Life fame each gave inspiring talks about the 4% rule and life after retirement.

Doug Nordman of The Military Guide spoke about raising financially smart children (which led me to be more proactive about the Bank of Mom and Dad when I got home).

Grant Sabatier of Millennial Money regaled us with his harrowing journey from nearly penniless to financially independent, along with handing out free copies of his new book Financial Freedom.

Brad and Jonathan of Choose FI spoke about designing your life in an optimal way before you reach FI, which really provoked me to try a lot of new things upon returning to life.

Justin from Root of Good spoke about ways to enjoy life when you are post-FI. Unfortunately I missed this talk, as the lure of the pool and the beautiful weather was simply too strong for my poor tired mind to ignore. Sorry Justin! I really do feel guilty about that, mostly because there are pools everywhere, but Justin isn’t giving speeches in my in-laws’ backyard. Oh well, lesson learned.

I want to point out here that I am giving incredibly brief descriptions of the talks here because I’m no good at recounting stuff like that, and also because Deanna from Ms. Fiology, who is someone I had been really hoping to meet and is absolutely awesome in person, did a way better job than I could ever do. I highly recommend checking out her Camp FI recap article when you’re done with this one.
They let just about anybody into these things, apparently

Lots of Other Stuff

Along with the talks, which were interspersed with plenty of free time and meals, there were a few breakaway sessions in which we had the chance to get into smaller groups to talk about topics of interest together. These topics included Health and Fitness, Real Estate, Healthcare, and something else that I don’t remember because I maybe skipped it.

Beyond that, the Camps are sprinkled with a couple of big chunks of free time, in which there were all kinds of recreational activities, not the least of which was drinking epic amounts of beer and playing Slam Ball, or Spike Ball, or whatever it is the kids are calling it these days.
These crazy kids these days, I tell ya
Not only did I come home super excited (and tired and hungover) to start all kinds of new ventures and ideas, I also came home with lots of new contacts and I got to meet a bunch of people in real life that I had been getting to know online for a couple of years. If you ever get the chance to hang out with Andy from Aardvark Advisor, definitely challenge him to a game of Bocci. You’ll probably lose, but you’ll have a great time.

Time to Bring it Home

There was so much about this camp that made me happy, but I don’t want to spoil it if you’re thinking of going to your first one. Just go with an open mind, and know that you will leave a better person. You’ll meet awesome people who know a ton of cool stuff, you’ll do fun things that get you pumped, and you’ll learn a ton of info on the mechanics, philosophy, and real-life issues surrounding FI.

My main takeaway from this second Camp FI experience, if I had to pick something to focus on, would be the power of community. The Financial Independence journey can feel daunting at times, boring at times, even a little bit pie-in-the-sky at times. That’s a real expression, by the way. Look it up. Anyway, when you’re feeling a little bit put-off by the whole thing, that is the time to seek out community. The right people will pick you up and point you in the right direction again, and you might even have fun in the process!
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